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  • Church
    needs to not mod crookedH
    • May 2009
    • 354

    Torque Wrench General

    Since I'm not sure about the mechanical skill level of everyone on this site, I'm going to start a few "general knowledge" threads of advice for beginners. Some of you will probably already know this, but it might come useful to some people.

    Torque Wrench 101.

    1. General care and Storage:
    When purchasing a torque wrench, be aware to look up the manufacturers tolerance. This should be in a (+/- X%) marking. This means that when you set your torque wrench to a given value (e.g. 350 in/lbs) it will be within a range of that setting (a +/-5% tolerance will be anywhere from 367.5 to 332.5 in/lbs when set to 350 in./lbs). Generally speaking anything more than 3% isn't worth purchasing, as the tolerance tend to enlarge over time.

    When storing your torque wrench for any period of time (more than 30 mins is a good rule), do not leave it on the torque value you had last used. Instead bring it to the lowest value on it's rating, NOT ZERO. Bringing it to "zero" can loosen the internals and ruin the torque wrench.

    Every manufacturer has a set amount of uses per calibration of torque wrench they make. Keep track of this useage, when you are close to that number, or a year has gone by since purchase (which ever comes first) send it to the manufacturer for calibration. The internals weaken over time and need to be adjusted properly, otherwise your +/-2% wrench will become a +/- 10%.

    Do not, and I repeat do not DROP even onto a table your torque wrench, even a 1" fall can loosen components and make the wrench un-usable. If dropped accidently, send the unit in for calibration.





    2. Proper Application.

    When choosing to use your torque wrench, make sure that the wrench is able to stay within torque range. Using the Wrench example as above, a nut that is required to be torqued to 340-360 in/lbs would require a different wrench than above, as the wrench can either over-torque or under-torque the nut and cause pre-mature parts failure.

    A good example of where poor torque can cause pre-mature parts failure (and other issues) is a head install. Lack of torque will cause a head gasket to leak coolant/oil, which if cross contamination happens (coolant in oil) metal on metal movement and engine damage can occur.



    Always torque on the Nut, Never (unless specified or require aka VW/AUDI wheels which use wheel bolts not nuts) Torque on a Bolt head, the overall clamping force is always distributed by the nut as the threads of the bolt will bite into and bind against the material it is threaded into. By torquing a bolt head, you are twisting the head which creates extra resistance on the wrench. This means a bolt that you are trying to torque to 40ft/lbs of force may only have 30ft/lbs of clamping force on it. Torque rates for bolt heads already have this and thread stretch calculated into the rating.


    Using anything that extends the distance that the head of the head of torque wrench from point of torque (not a ratchet extension but for example a crows foot that extends the overall length of the "handle") increases the amount of torque put on a nut at any torque rating before the torque wrench will "click". I do not have the current formula on me and will copy it down monday from my General Tool Tech Manual, but you will need to measure the difference and input the desired torque to get what setting you will need to put the wrench at (I may even put up a diagram)


    diagram stolen from engineersedge.com

    Last thing I can think of, be sure to always double check the ratings and make sure you are following the right ones. It is very easy to accidentally read in/lbs as ft/lbs and vice-versa. I will also put up a metric-imperial (and vice-versa) conversion table when I get the leverage formula.
    Last edited by Church; 08-17-2013, 06:27 AM.
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  • Sean
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    • Jun 2011
    • 4514

    #2
    Good thread.
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    • Kevinoffroad4x4
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      • Oct 2008
      • 6603

      #3
      I like the info. Thanks

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      • Zoom6
        Admin
        • Oct 1985
        • 5216

        #4
        Good info and I added rep as well. I have to slightly disagree with part of it though. The part about extending the handle is not exactly true. If you are using a torque wrench, it doesn't matter if you extend the handle or not since the torque application is read in the head (when it clicks). The head doesn't care where you are holding the handle. Extending the handle just makes it easier to move (for higher torque levels).

        I can see where one might think that though. If you apply 1lb of force at one foot from the center of what you are applying the torque to, you are applying 1 ft/lb. If you apply that same 1lb of force at the 2ft mark, it is 2ft/lb.

        Applying the same level of force at a point farther away from the center point would produce more torque. The ratchet will still click off at the specified torque value though so it really just makes it easier to reach that torque level.
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        Originally posted by EuroTrash
        I can only imagine the conference calls and work that it took an engineering team to develop butthole seeking technology for this to accurately target a puckered starfish with a warm blast of water.

        I'm sure a few have PTSD from testing.
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        • Church
          needs to not mod crookedH
          • May 2009
          • 354

          #5
          Originally posted by Zoom6
          Good info and I added rep as well. I have to slightly disagree with part of it though. The part about extending the handle is not exactly true. If you are using a torque wrench, it doesn't matter if you extend the handle or not since the torque application is read in the head (when it clicks). The head doesn't care where you are holding the handle. Extending the handle just makes it easier to move (for higher torque levels).

          I can see where one might think that though. If you apply 1lb of force at one foot from the center of what you are applying the torque to, you are applying 1 ft/lb. If you apply that same 1lb of force at the 2ft mark, it is 2ft/lb.

          Applying the same level of force at a point farther away from the center point would produce more torque. The ratchet will still click off at the specified torque value though so it really just makes it easier to reach that torque level.
          Absolutely true, but that's not what I was trying to explain. I've re-worded it for a clearer explaination. What I am referring to are attachments that extend handle length by moving the head further away.
          Last edited by Church; 08-17-2013, 06:29 AM.
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          • Zoom6
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            • Oct 1985
            • 5216

            #6
            Ahh, I see. I misunderstood you.
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            Originally posted by EuroTrash
            I can only imagine the conference calls and work that it took an engineering team to develop butthole seeking technology for this to accurately target a puckered starfish with a warm blast of water.

            I'm sure a few have PTSD from testing.
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            • Church
              needs to not mod crookedH
              • May 2009
              • 354

              #7
              Originally posted by Zoom6
              Ahh, I see. I misunderstood you.
              Hence why I edited it. Good thing you spoke up because I don't want to be accidentally mis-informing people.
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              • Turbobrick240
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                • Oct 2011
                • 1369

                #8
                [MENTION=3378]k2500diesel[/MENTION] read up on this :P
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                • The General
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                  • May 2008
                  • 1744

                  #9
                  the only problem I have with this is by the time yours gets to you, wont it be #!#!#!#!ed up, I mean if you send it to the manufacturer even if you put fragile on the box. They are still gonna toss it around and if you buy one of these things at a store, who thinks they are taking care of so carefully or theirs wasnt the one dropped on the ground, that the dude just put it back on the shelf
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                  • Church
                    needs to not mod crookedH
                    • May 2009
                    • 354

                    #10
                    Originally posted by The General
                    the only problem I have with this is by the time yours gets to you, wont it be #!#!#!#!ed up, I mean if you send it to the manufacturer even if you put fragile on the box. They are still gonna toss it around and if you buy one of these things at a store, who thinks they are taking care of so carefully or theirs wasnt the one dropped on the ground, that the dude just put it back on the shelf
                    Aren't they normally in cases and packaging? Which would still be better than dropping it on itself where it receives the full force of impact. I guess you could always purchase straight from Snap-on, Cornwell, or Harbor-freight where you know they only deal with tools and not have employees who wouldn't know about this abuse like sears or fedex/UPS.

                    My employer deals with snap-on directly. Expensive, but we have not from my knowledge Broken a bolt or had an aircraft go down from a "good" torque wrench that we didn't know was actually bad.

                    Either way yes, that is a risk, but I'd rather take care of my torque wrench that is probably in spec, than abuse it and have it 100% out of spec.
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