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Evo 3 16g
3" turbo back Thermal R&D exhaust
ECMLink
hard upper intercooler pipe
Tein/AGX suspension
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FYI ase's are want independant shops want and you'll get paid more for having them..... i have ford credentials up the wahzoo and never bothered to get ase's because ford didnt give a hoot about them..... now that im working on all types of cars they wanna see ase's..... And im getting paid more for having them.... i have a1, a5, a6 and t6 and i just tested for a4, a7, a8 a couple weeks ago.... believe me when my results come back.... ill be making more money.....
if we were both applying for a job and im an ase master tech with a1-a8 and l1 and you dont have a single ase.... who are they gonna hire?
UTI was overrated huh? i think so"Straights are for fast cars, Corners are for fast drivers."
- 99 Civic LX
- 96 Jeep Grand Cherokee
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Who knows you might be one of the lucky ones that actually learned something at UTI . I commend you for it
My Experience has been bad with UTI graduates . I built two 400whp civics for UTI Grads in the past year . One I built a bottom end for and he decided he was going to install it till he could not get it running . Things I found wrong .... No keyways in the cam gears :O so cam timing was way off ...fuel reg still had the plastic plug in the fuel supply hole , so the car was getting no fuel .....
The other just had me build the whole longblock . He put his in his car with a oil filter relocation kit and hook the lines up backwards :O we can just say he had no oil pressure .. luckily I fill the crank and such with enough prelube that the engine still runs to this day laying down over 400whp ..
Good luck in your search . You have two types of Speed shops . You have your bolt-on shops and fix it by replacing it type ( This is like dealer work )
Prostreet
Wildcards
ex drivingstyle
A-Z
then you have shops more like mine that can design and fabricate solutions to make things work . Speed shops dont use scan tools like the dealer or Alldata .
Ballistic Motorsports
DSG
Synaptic3
Trick Eng.
Shops like my take more than mechanical skills . I went to school to be a machinist /fabricator then started in mechanics later . I got in the biz working for free to learn . I started in 12vt and then found a shop that did both 12vt and performance . I manage that shop for 10 years and then decided to split 3 years ago the start Ballistic . Needless to say the old shop I work for has now since gone out of business.
Other things you need to be aware of is shops like mine , is you pay for your own mistakes . If you brake or blow something up and it is found to be the your fault . It comes out of your pay check and more than likely you are out of a job . So you have to ask yourself are you confident enough that you can be sure you do not make a $20K mistake ? This is why I am hesitant to hire . I cant call corporate and fudge a warranty claim for a mistake and have them cover it unknowingly ( I wish I could though )
Also how big is your tool collection ? Tools are sacred and are not to be shared . Most shops require you to have all your own tools .
I wish you the best in your quest . Just a few things to think about . You will make more money working for dealers than a independent . Only perks working for a independent is getting goodies for yourself at cost and bragging rights of what you accomplished ( Media and Press )
You are welcome to stop buy sometime and check it out .2013 Scion FR-s - DD/Shop Whore
1997 BMW M3 - New HillClimb/Track car/Projekt M
1995 Turbo Miata - sleeping right now
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+897145 with what scotty said. i am also a UTI grad, but i wish id gone a different route. i wish id started as an apprentice at a shop and got paid (very little, but still paid) to learn everything. instead, i went to school, learned some basics, racked up a huge student loan debt, and started as an apprentice anyway. it took me two years to prove myself, and i was never able to afford all the tools i needed (although, my $630 car payment may have deterred that).
moral of the story is, i learned more apprenticing at a subaru dealership, and doing a little to help scotty a few times than i did at school. honestly, i think sitting back and cleaning his shop for free, i would have learned more from scotty.Current car: 07 STi 331whp 376wtq
Previous cars: 03 WRX wagon, 06 WRX TR, 93 Civic Sedan, 1991 Galant VR-4 #1375, 1991 Galant VR-4 #xxxx, 2001 Ford Focus, 1998 Jetta GLX, 2009 Scion tc.Comment
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Hell I learned that I suck at figuring out what kind of metal something is in only a few minutes of being at Scotty's shop!
I've always wanted to start my own speed shop for bikes and cars, but there's a lot of competition and I'm obviously not confident in my own abilities enough yet.- Justin
99 Saturn SL2 Turbo
01 Saab Viggen (OEM+)
95 Lexus SC300 (in progress...)
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I graduated from uti in pheonix in 05... It was overpriced IMO... But still a good school and yes most of the students are just yuppies... Most I went with had a free ride from mommy and daddy free school free rent and bills no job etc those are the ones that didnt give a #!#!#!#! and fall into scouts uti grad category... I personally worked full time to pay my rent while attending uti 35hrs a week with a 99.8% attendance rate (I left early to watch the red sox win the world series
) and I left with a 4.0gpa and national honor society.... Honestly ive learned more actually turning wrenches since than I did at school... School was more theory vs hands on.... But I myself would much rather work IN a real speed shop and would be willing to make less money just to have a bettyer overall satisfaction with my job.
I actually studied manchinjng technology and almost pursued it but I prefer hand machining over Cnc and thats the world of machining today... I'm really good with a mill and lathe and I love doing it very much I would love to mix that kind of work with mechanical which is what speed shops are"Straights are for fast cars, Corners are for fast drivers."
- 99 Civic LX
- 96 Jeep Grand Cherokee
- 08 Ski-Doo Summit X 800RComment
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so in all honesty uti wasnt worth it? im going to be going to college in a couple of years and i was thinking about UTII graduated from uti in pheonix in 05... It was overpriced IMO... But still a good school and yes most of the students are just yuppies... Most I went with had a free ride from mommy and daddy free school free rent and bills no job etc those are the ones that didnt give a #!#!#!#! and fall into scouts uti grad category... I personally worked full time to pay my rent while attending uti 35hrs a week with a 99.8% attendance rate (I left early to watch the red sox win the world series
) and I left with a 4.0gpa and national honor society.... Honestly ive learned more actually turning wrenches since than I did at school... School was more theory vs hands on.... But I myself would much rather work IN a real speed shop and would be willing to make less money just to have a bettyer overall satisfaction with my job.
I actually studied manchinjng technology and almost pursued it but I prefer hand machining over Cnc and thats the world of machining today... I'm really good with a mill and lathe and I love doing it very much I would love to mix that kind of work with mechanical which is what speed shops are2013 Ford Focus ST
Josh Tate 11/21/89 - 4/1/08Originally posted by WTFWBBD?you would blow the name Ballistics if it had a cock.Comment
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DO NOT GO TO UTI!!!
Bottom line. You can learn a lot. There are about 5-6 people in a group, 4 F-off 2 actually work, I was one of the workers. You can learn a lot if you actually try, but the review right before the test gives away most of the answers, some people learned this quick.
I agree with everything SIL-EIGHTY said. I also worked open - 12 at Saturn of Nashua, driving the hour+ to school, then driving home to get home around 10P.M. Then working a part time job on sunday and after I got out of Saturn on Saturday. Then had a baby in October, trying to take care of him in my "free" time to give his mom a break and worrying about bills, and the condition of my car driving, what is it? 75 miles a day. The #!#!#!#! was tough and the kids that got a free ride the whole really piss me off, becuase they make us that worked hard look bad. I heard it over and over and over "I have had nothing but bad luck with UTI students." Makes me embarrased to tell people I paid $34,000 for what? a bad rep?1995 Eclipse GST - ~~~~
...in project mode
1999 Eclipse GST winter beater ----
Evo 3 16g
3" turbo back Thermal R&D exhaust
ECMLink
hard upper intercooler pipe
Tein/AGX suspension
Other crap
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if you like to fix stuff, learn to work on airplanes. they're usually cleaner, the pay isn't much better in most cases but you work hourly. never flat rate. there's a school at Hanscom Airport in Bedford and the NH Tech. in Nashua has a really good program.Joe B.
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I am too much in debt to think about school again for a while.1995 Eclipse GST - ~~~~
...in project mode
1999 Eclipse GST winter beater ----
Evo 3 16g
3" turbo back Thermal R&D exhaust
ECMLink
hard upper intercooler pipe
Tein/AGX suspension
Other crap
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holy #!#!#!#! u paid 34k??!! lol.... my core was 19,500 and i paid abother 5ish for Ford FACT.... just a shade under 25k.... funny thing is back in like 97 it cost like 10k there"Straights are for fast cars, Corners are for fast drivers."
- 99 Civic LX
- 96 Jeep Grand Cherokee
- 08 Ski-Doo Summit X 800RComment
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DONT go to UTI. if i could go back, i would have gone in the military then. i paid about 20k as well.
i also worked my way through school. id be up at 6am every morning, at school at7ish, stay til i think it was 12:30, then go home and eat, and be at work from 2-10. i worked 6 days per week, had a 98% attendance rating, finished with a 3.6 GPA, and i was also one of the people in the group who would actually try to learn something. i had fun at school, learned how to diag really really well, but i wish id never gone. it really wasnt worth it at all. but, when i go to the air force, i had an associates and start at a higher pay grade. haha thats the only positive it has for me any more.Current car: 07 STi 331whp 376wtq
Previous cars: 03 WRX wagon, 06 WRX TR, 93 Civic Sedan, 1991 Galant VR-4 #1375, 1991 Galant VR-4 #xxxx, 2001 Ford Focus, 1998 Jetta GLX, 2009 Scion tc.Comment
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