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  • Boosted Euro
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    • Oct 2006
    • 27801

    #16
    Yea, I was thinking manifold and down pipe . Like you know from my.other post I no nothing jz, 7m ..lol I just know with the subaru stock location stuff is all the same . So you just bolt it right up, until you go to big of a turbo you have.to go to what they call a rotated set up . Then you need new manifold and down pipe, ront mount IC . I can get a gtx3582 good for 600hp and fits right into stock location. http://www.rallysportdirect.com/ATP-...ly-Gated-Turbo. I think that's as big as I could go .

    You said you were unhappy with your bolt on turbo , so I wasn't sure if there were bigger options in a bolt on or not. I'm guessing not.
    Last edited by Boosted Euro; 02-08-2013, 02:02 PM.
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    • Cutlassjim
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      • Mar 2012
      • 362

      #17
      Originally posted by Leafy
      It depends. I dont think you'll be unhappy with any turbo sized to your power goal from a name brand (or even china). But some are better than others. I would rank EFR > PTE > normal BW > Garrett gtx with tial parts > other stuff.
      I'm with this guy. For a street car if you're over 50 lb/min a ball bearing center section will really pay off in the way the car feels. Also twin scroll is the way to go on a straight 4 or 6 cylinder. Something TS T3 flanged should be easy to find, same with the exhaust manifold.

      Most new design turbo's in the 58-65 lb/min range will probably spool the same if not better then your current set-up. Even more so for twin scroll.

      I've had a lot of people have great success with cheap Ebay exhaust manifolds that have all the welds gone over.
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      • Leafy
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        • Aug 2011
        • 1154

        #18
        They make TS T3 housings? I thought they were all T4.
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        • OVRBST
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          • Dec 2007
          • 3834

          #19
          Whats your power goal? The right size converter will eliminate just about any lag in any turbo (within reason)
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          • MrSupra9-1-1
            Toyotaholic
            • Jul 2009
            • 1114

            #20
            Originally posted by OVRBST
            Whats your power goal? The right size converter will eliminate just about any lag in any turbo (within reason)
            Power goal, 450-550 on 93 octane with my setup. IT would include new manifold and downpipe. Everything else should work with minimum fabrication (ic piping etc.).
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            • Leafy
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              • Aug 2011
              • 1154

              #21
              Wait for the efr 7163 to come out? That should sit right in the middle of your range, even though its a "small frame" turbo, same outside dimensions as my turbo. And based on how the efrs work, on you engine I would expect full boost by 3500 rpm or sooner, and it should be able to hit 500 hp. Its supposed to officially come out this year and you would want to call around for the T4 TS housing, but honestly the t25 housing should flow well enough if you dont want to get a TS manifold.
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              • NHMR2
                ~chris
                • Mar 2011
                • 4750

                #22
                I'd do fine research with that new Honeywell dual boost turbo. Nothing would be better then that... Just a matter of actually being able to get one
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                • Cutlassjim
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                  • Mar 2012
                  • 362

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Leafy
                  Wait for the efr 7163 to come out? That should sit right in the middle of your range, even though its a "small frame" turbo, same outside dimensions as my turbo. And based on how the efrs work, on you engine I would expect full boost by 3500 rpm or sooner, and it should be able to hit 500 hp. Its supposed to officially come out this year and you would want to call around for the T4 TS housing, but honestly the t25 housing should flow well enough if you dont want to get a TS manifold.
                  I'm liking this Leafy guy. I was saving up for a 7064 and saw the Perrin review onthe 7163 and it looks like the balls.
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                  • Leafy
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                    • Aug 2011
                    • 1154

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Cutlassjim
                    I'm liking this Leafy guy. I was saving up for a 7064 and saw the Perrin review onthe 7163 and it looks like the balls.
                    You have to pay attention. These EFRs are hard to get because they cant keep up with demand. I got one of the last 2 6758EFRs that I could find, and there wont be more for at least 3-4weeks.
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                    • OVRBST
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                      • Dec 2007
                      • 3834

                      #25
                      I don't think the 7163 will make it to be honest. The streetability, fun factor and torque would be through the roof as it would spool faster then the 26, but odds are it won't hold boost to redline. Perrin's comparison's showed them holding 1.7bar to redline on a 2.5L, but I think with the added 1/2L and two extra cylinders it may fall off up top. Also we generally don't run more then 18-19psi on pump on 7M's. The amount of timing that has to be pulled above that makes it a waste. Either way for an auto supra it's a very viable option. I'm just very doubtful it will make over 500whp being a low-mid 50mm turbo.
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                      • mike cm
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                        • Oct 2009
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                        #26
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                        • MrSupra9-1-1
                          Toyotaholic
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 1114

                          #27
                          Looking at the SC73 might be too big?

                          I keep coming back to a pte 6262 or the 6466. The 6466 might be good with a qsv since they virtually cost the same.

                          Any input on injectors? Alex, will my 550's be big enough for 18psi to reach 450-500?
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                          1977 Porsche 911 Carerra S Targa
                          Weekend Warrior - Built Original 2.7 (bored ~2.9)

                          2012 Toyota Camry SE
                          Snow Machine- Snow Tires, SE Suspension, SE Sports Exhaust

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                          • NHMR2
                            ~chris
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 4750

                            #28
                            I think your 550s will be getting about maxed at those levels... I'd throw in some SARD 800cc's

                            And I think the 6262 would be puurrrfect
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                            • OVRBST
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                              • Dec 2007
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                              #29
                              73's to big. 6466 billet dbb would get my vote. 64mm, T4 divided, .84 A/R and 3" v-band. That's the setup that's made more waves in the Supra world then just about any other turbo. Spool like a 62, and makes the power of a 67.

                              If you get an undivided header you'll have the opportunity to run a QSV if it's too laggy for you. That turbo has made a touch over 900whp to boot
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                              • OVRBST
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                                • Dec 2007
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                                #30
                                Thats on full kill and e85 of course.

                                Your 550's will be at the very limit at 500whp. If you're on a single pump you won't make it. You'll have to go to dual pump, or step the injectors up.
                                Alex W.
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