Kevin's Mustang: Bottle or not?

[Intervention]

Hey guys...

I am seriously considering running a bottle on the mustang. It is 4k cheaper than a blower for nearly the same perfomance.

Blower = $5,500 / 165WHP = $33 per HP
Bottle = $1,000 / 100WHP = $10 per HP

http://www.brenspeed.com/mustang_2005/nitrous.html

Pretty much that Zex kit. With the Tracion control window switch, blowdown tube, and other extras.


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What do you guys think, I want honest opnions

[d3ad1ysp0rk]

Have you researched nitrous prices around? I know some guys who run it constantly, but they live in FL and have cheap prices.

Nitrous when properly setup is an awesome power adder for a very small initial investment. Just remember that filling your bottle will cost you over time. Depending on how much you use it, it will eventually surpass the supercharger in overall cost, AND depending on state nitrous is illegal to have hooked up (some states say the bottle can't be open, others say the bottle can't be hooked to the car at all, etc). I do not know NH's nitrous laws at all, sorry.

[Intervention]

After initial parts with accessories (traction switch, blowdown tube, purge, bottle stand/heater) installation ( not doing it myself), plus complete retuning at Petes, it comes to roughly 1,000 bucks...

Checking the laws now

[d3ad1ysp0rk]

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=nitrous%20near%20manchester%2C%20nh&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=fl

That didn't find much in terms of nitrous filling places.

What I could find:
http://www.hellfireperformance.com/service.htm - No price listed. Newton, NH
http://www.vtwincycle.com/ - Rochester, NH (bit far for you), no price listed on site.

I'm sure someone else knows a good (or existent) place around here to buy it. You'll need to find out their price per lb. Ranges from $1.50-6/lb, which can make a big difference in that "breaking even" (supercharger vs nitrous cost) point.

[RevLimitLaunch]

i know a place to get your nitrous charged, it's $4 a pound and it's medical nitrous, which is free from the 'contaminants' you would see from regular performance shops. couldn't tell you much else about that statement. but don't worry kevin, there are a few places in the manchester area that you can fill at.

in nh, the nitrous tank and everything else can be IN the car, but when inspected, the line MUST be disconnected basically



as long as you aren't nitrous happy, a full tank could last at LEAST a week with going to the track. i say go for gold man, it's the cheapest alternative to good, high horsepower. a 100 shot would be perfect for your mustang, even 125 or around there. but stick a bit lower.

[Intervention]

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=...-8&sa=N&tab=fl

That didn't find much in terms of nitrous filling places.

What I could find:
http://www.hellfireperformance.com/service.htm - No price listed. Newton, NH
http://www.vtwincycle.com/ - Rochester, NH (bit far for you), no price listed on site.

I'm sure someone else knows a good (or existent) place around here to buy it. You'll need to find out their price per lb. Ranges from $1.50-6/lb, which can make a big difference in that "breaking even" (supercharger vs nitrous cost) point.

My tuner has a nitrous filling station...

He uses it in all his customers cars, even his own 10 second cobra...

$45 for a 10lb

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As far as the purge, I probably wont run one. Pete says its not NEEDED, i9ts nice but not needed.

[d3ad1ysp0rk]

i know a place to get your nitrous charged, it's $4 a pound and it's medical nitrous, which is free from the 'contaminants' you would see from regular performance shops. couldn't tell you much else about that statement. but don't worry kevin, there are a few places in the manchester area that you can fill at.

in nh, the nitrous tank and everything else can be IN the car, but when inspected, the line MUST be disconnected basically



as long as you aren't nitrous happy, a full tank could last at LEAST a week with going to the track. i say go for gold man, it's the cheapest alternative to good, high horsepower. a 100 shot would be perfect for your mustang, even 125 or around there. but stick a bit lower.

+1 to everything he said, 100-125 should be a perfect kick in the pants #!

Also remember that if it's gotta be out for inspection, that means it's "illegal" and if a cop wants to be a dick he can ticket you for it. Just be careful.

[d3ad1ysp0rk]

As far as the purge, I probably wont run one. Pete says its not NEEDED, i9ts nice but not needed.

Technically not a whole lot is "needed", but most things serve their purpose. ie. It'd be nice to have a purge right before you go for a track run just to make sure there is no air in the lines and you get all the power you're expecting. Still, he's right, it's not needed.

http://www.go-fast.org/z28/new_to_nitrous.html

Does "traction control switch" mean Window Switch? If not, I'd pick one of those up. You do NOT want to spray at low RPMs. For my car they suggest 3,000+, but for yours I assume you could spray a bit lower (2500-2750? You'd have to check around with your tuner or mustang forums).

[MaxTitration]

bottles are for babies.

[Intervention]

+1 to everything he said, 100-125 should be a perfect kick in the pants #!

Also remember that if it's gotta be out for inspection, that means it's "illegal" and if a cop wants to be a dick he can ticket you for it. Just be careful.

Pete recommended running a 100 - 125shot. He just did another auto mustang but with long tubes as well ( he makes 8 more RWHP than me on the motor). He traps at 117 now with street tires....

Bolt Ons





Heres him on a 125 shot

[Intervention]

Does "traction control switch" mean Window Switch? If not, I'd pick one of those up. You do NOT want to spray at low RPMs. For my car they suggest 3,000+, but for yours I assume you could spray a bit lower (2500-2750? You'd have to check around with your tuner or mustang forums).[/quote]

You dont spray below 2500rpm...

The traction switch allows you to ( like boost limited gears) to tell the computer what RPM to engage the NOS in each gear individually, as long as its still WOT.

I'd spray from 2750-6250 in 2,3,4. And spray from 4000-6000 in first ( no spray from the launch)

[Intervention]

bottles are for babies.

And why is this?

I most likely wont follow through with these plans, but the chance is still there...

http://www.stockhouse.com/tools/?page=%2FFinancialTools%2Fsn_overview.asp%3Fsymbol%3DV.CKG%26table%3DLIST

Now if this certain stock ever hits $9-10... A blower will be ordered immediately

[d3ad1ysp0rk]

The traction switch allows you to ( like boost limited gears) to tell the computer what RPM to engage the NOS in each gear individually, as long as its still WOT.

I'd spray from 2750-6250 in 2,3,4. And spray from 4000-6000 in first ( no spray from the launch)

Cool, even better!

When are you thinking about getting this done?

[Ballistic Motorsports]

It is Legal to have installed , armed and ready to use . Actually you can even legally use it as long as you abide the speed limits and laws of the road .

I have a State Trooper Friend I asked when I had my direct port system in the civic

[Intervention]

Cool, even better!

When are you thinking about getting this done?

If I get it done, it will be the end of July. Cause I will have my money from Dan, and my stimulus tax returns